Ex-New Age Expert: A Lizard-Like Demon Pulled Me Out of My Body in a Lucid Dream

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Steven Bancarz grew up in a Pentecostal, homeschooling family. But when he started becoming fascinated with aliens as a teenager, he quickly got swept up in a New Age belief system.

He became obsessed with UFOology and stories of aliens appearing to ancient civilizations. Soon he was pursuing spiritual transcendence in an effort to contact these beings.

“There is a supernatural exchange that takes place between the practitioner and the demons, the principalities, that are set over this type of spirituality,” Bancarz explains. “I saw one of them with my own eyes in a lucid dream I was having. And he pulled me out of my body.”

Bancarz describes the demon as looking like a lizard in humanoid form with red skin and a red cloak.

“I was aware I was dreaming within a dream,” Bancarz says. “And when this being appeared 20 feet in front of me, first he pulled me out of the car within my lucid dream. Then he stood in front of me—we’re both hovering in the air—and he had a third eye in between his two regular eyes. That represents psychic power and the New Age, and when he opened his third eye, I got sucked into it, and I was disoriented.”

For three seconds, Bancarz says, everything went black. Then when he opened his eyes, he was no longer in his lucid dream. He was hovering four feet above his body.

But Jesus had a plan to rescue Bancarz from his deception. Listen to the podcast to find out what happened next.

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